grendel Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, MaceSwinger said: That's just the problem for me, they shouldn't be. The media should be there to provide calm and neutral coverage of important events and facts. calm and neutral doesnt sell newspapers, neither does sticking to the facts, its all about sensationalism. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceSwinger Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, grendel said: calm and neutral doesnt sell newspapers, neither does sticking to the facts, its all about sensationalism. I'm well aware. What I'm saying is that it shouldn't be the case. As I said in a previous post, I'm all in favour of freedom of the press, but all they do is abuse that freedom by publishing, at worst, outright lies. They clearly aren't accountable enough for it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Whether led by the media or followed by the media we live in a world where lying is so commonplace that it is accepted or expected. The truth has become a rare commodity along with facts and honourable behaviour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaceSwinger Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ray said: Whether led by the media or followed by the media we live in a world where lying is so commonplace that it is accepted or expected. The truth has become a rare commodity along with facts and honourable behaviour. The fact Piers Morgan still has a career in the media after the amount of phone hacking and shady dealings that went on on his watch baffles me. The man should be a pariah for that alone, let alone the way he conducts his "interviews" now. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 20 hours ago, Gracie said: I heard on the local news the other day of parents whose daughter is a nurse working all the hours she can to do her bit. She came home the other night broken and exhausted. She had to climb on someone's chest in an ambulance outside the hospital to give CPR but sadly he died. She sobbed in her Mum's arms I can only imagine the trauma they face every day, they don't just leave it at the door when they go home either. Bless all the emergency services and workers, they really are super heroes My daughter is a pharmacist and is now expected to administer drugs as a means of reducing the pressure on doctors, she is now very much on the front line. Her ward has eight covid patients to care for as well as her other duties. She lost two patients the other day, I know that she was deeply upset. Despite that she has to go home and for the sake of her two small boys she has to carry on and be normal. All I see is my daughter who is exhausted and drained yet, for the sake of the boys, she can still smile. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 She deserves the highest praise and recognition for what she is doing. I'm sure she does not seek accolades but she and her colleagues deserve them nonetheless. Please pass on a big thank you from my family 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, MaceSwinger said: I'm well aware. What I'm saying is that it shouldn't be the case. As I said in a previous post, I'm all in favour of freedom of the press, but all they do is abuse that freedom by publishing, at worst, outright lies. They clearly aren't accountable enough for it. The Press is driven by demand. Whether they lead or follow that demand is open to debate! 18 minutes ago, Ray said: Whether led by the media or followed by the media we live in a world where lying is so commonplace that it is accepted or expected. Not just in the media, it is also rampant in government and local government. Indeed the courts even support lying as we know with one particular local quango that shall remain nameless! Greed and sleaze has become a way of life . . . . . I could so easily become political at this point! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, Ray said: She deserves the highest praise and recognition for what she is doing. I'm sure she does not seek accolades but she and her colleagues deserve them nonetheless. Please pass on a big thank you from my family The other day I called her my NHS hero, her reply was that she hadn't even thought of it that way. She is one of many tens of thousands, just as is Vaughan's daughter. I'm immensely proud of her. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: as we know with one particular local quango that shall remain nameless! How did you manage to slip that into the conversation ???? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea14Ian Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I agree think your daughter is a hero Peter.Just like all those caring for us in the NHS.It is a big worry that so many are reaching burn out.One thing that has been highlighted recently in the press.Now and again the press do right.This is where all of us can help,by sticking to the rules.Which may help to reduce pressure on the NHS. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 38 minutes ago, Vaughan said: How did you manage to slip that into the conversation ???? Blame our good friend Ray for his regretfully relevant comment! "we live in a world where lying is so commonplace that it is accepted or expected.". Vaughan, you and I, and probably Ray, grew up in a world where both truth and honour could be taken for granted. Sadly to day that is clearly not the case. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, Chelsea14Ian said: It is a big worry that so many are reaching burn out. Many clearly are and many clearly have. How much longer before many are overwhelmed? I do worry about it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: Blame our good friend Ray I accept all blame, it is what I've trained for all these years of being married 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ray said: I accept all blame, it is what I've trained for all these years of being married Likewise! Thank you for taking my comment in the spirit in which it was intended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEM Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JennyMorgan said: The Press is driven by demand. Maybe what they perceive to be demand. However many seem to have their own agenda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracie Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 When I posted yesterday referring to front line workers being super hero's, JM your daughter was very much included in that as is vaughan"s They are super hero's in my book whether they like to be called that or not As parents you must be out of your minds with worry for them,, bless your hearts too x 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: I could so easily become political at this point! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: The Press is driven by demand The Press are driven, like a lot, by profit, no more no less, if it sells papers its in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyg Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 My wife is also nurse on a covid ward at Basildon hospital here in essex, they are currently losing on average 3 patients a day on her ward alone. She despairs at the general publics attitude towards wearing face coverings social distancing and the younger generations attitude towards this virus. She and her colleagues are on the verge of burning out. Sadly for her, she had friend of her father's admitted to her ward early Monday morning she held his hand has he past away that same afternoon so he wouldn't be alone. She was mentally broken Monday evening when she came home. She says she's seen enough of death to last her for the rest of her life. My wife is a very happy go lucky kind of person well known for her big heart, I can assure everyone she and her colleagues are not at this point in time. When we finally turn the corner with this virus and things settled down I believe we will see the true damage to nhs and its beleaguered staff. I'd also agree with comments made earlier, my wife and her colleagues believe they are just doing their job and don't seek gratification. 5 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polly Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 We owe them a debt that can never be repaid. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finny Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 No words needed 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanR Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, andyg said: Sadly for her, she had friend of her father's admitted to her ward early Monday morning she held his hand has he past away that same afternoon so he wouldn't be alone. She was mentally broken Monday evening when she came home. She says she's seen enough of death to last her for the rest of her life. Andy my thoughts and prayers are with so many people like your wife. I shed a tear reading your post. All I’ve got to do is to stay at home and try to keep safe. That’s not much to ask compared to those who have been on the front line so selflessly for almost a year now. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Polly said: We owe them a debt that can never be repaid. I can only agree wholeheartedly with Polly on this one. We also owe it to NHS staff to do our bit, something that so many refuse to do. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meantime Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, JennyMorgan said: something that so many refuse to do. There's a very interesting Guardian article on this! Article 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, Meantime said: There's a very interesting Guardian article on this! Article Media muckraking? Hardly helpful at this time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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