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Anxious few minutes after hearing the news this morning as my daughter has moved to this neck of the woods. She's fine and I got a telling off for assuming she'd be at a concert by that singer...not that I would know I'm old.

My thoughts are with the families and I echo Poppy's sentiments.

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Psychologists all over the world will tell you that worst thing you can do in situations like this is give lime light, or any attention at all, to the attackers in this situation. Mainstream media, and politicians looking to score points do it all the time, and all it does is give potential attackers another incentive to carry out similar atrocities.

Remember Columbine? The media were all over the two gun men. Everything was about them. What they listened to, what they watched, what they played, how they dressed. If you think this doesn't feed into the narcissism of others contemplating such attacks, you're spectacularly naive.

Concentrate on the good, on those who helped, on sacrifices made, and what can be done in the future, don't aggrandize murderous c***. 

Remember the dead and injured , ignore the perpetrators!

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I woke up to the news at 0500 this morning on the World Service . My emotion then and still is, is one of a strange numbness and sadness that the place I love so much has somehow been raped by pure evil.

This City that is such a wonderful mixing pot of diversity in so many ways has been scarred and families not just fromManchester but the whole of Northern England  hit by this evil, my thoughts go out to them, it must be hell for you.

I will probably go into town for the vigil tonight. It certainly won't put the clock back or influence  those who perpetrate these  thing but it will send a message in some small way to those affected that I am thinking of their grieving.


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Most of thoughts  have been expressed by other members  I would like to add my feelings. Everyone  one at the concert had no doubt  saved and looked  forward  to  the night.Leaving happily only to be greeted by such evil .Killing and injuring many,including  many children .What in heavens name makes these evil people  do such crimes.The people  of  Manchester  have shown  that they are prepared  to help the injured and opening there doors to  others.

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I first was alerted to this by this very thread this morning, I refrained from answering in anger.

My thoughts go out to all those who suffered injury and loss, I am heartened to see the response from those who opened their doors to the victims and others attending the event.

I really hope that this tragedy is not used as a springboard to launch hatred of others, as some would like (not least the terrorists).

I feel that how politicians respond to this may well influence my decisions come voting time, and by that I mean not responding with generalised violence and hatred to people of the same race or religion as the terrorists, as that is the reaction the terrorists are trying to elicit, then they have an excuse to recruit more of their fellows.

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It is sad news from Manchester today. my thoughts are with all those involved.

The fanatics of all sides, fail to read the basic rules of their, Bible / Torah / Koran. ie the Ten Commandments, which is in all of them. The prime rule they ignore being.


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Having posted on the other thread I offer these words I came across on facebook.

I don't fear for myself,  I am old enough to not worry about having a go if I saw a situation developing and young enough to give others a chance to get away.

I do fear for our children and grandchildren. All we can do is prepare them.


Dear Baby Boy,

The news this morning about a terrorist attack in Manchester is breaking my heart. For the victims. For their families.

For you.

For you, your friends, and your generation.

I fear that these incidents are only going to happen more and more as you get older and it makes me so sick to think I cannot protect you from the barbaric individuals who do things like this.

As you grow up, you may think that it makes more sense and is safer to just 'stay in and not do anything'.

As your mother, who loves you so much it hurts, I have this message for you.

'Do not do that. Go out.... and do EVERYTHING.'

Do everything you want to do.

Go everywhere you want to go.

See everyone you want to see.

Go to that party at the club, go to school and university, go travelling and get on that plane, ride on the underground and go to that sports match, go on that holiday and see those sights, go to that shopping centre, go to that concert, go see that movie, go eat at that restaurant....

And you may think that is a strange thing for me to want you to do.

But my reason is this:

All your life, my job... is to protect you. Protect you from monsters. Most of those monsters, I can keep away from you, scare off, reassure you have gone away and won't come back.

But not these monsters.

These monsters do horrible things all over the world.

These monsters I cannot always protect you from.

And as a parent, that is the hardest thing in the world for me to come to terms with and admit to you.

But if I cannot fight these monsters for you, I'm sure as hell gonna teach you how to do that yourself.

By. Just. Living. Your. Life.

They don't want you to do that.

They don't win if you do that.

So do it.


Never be afraid to enjoy yourself and live your life to the fullest.

I cannot guarantee that one day, you may not come face to face with their horrors and destruction. I cannot guarantee that you may not know someone who is killed in a terrorism related incident, or god forbid, are hurt yourself in their bid to injure and kill people.

But remember this-

They cannot kill strength.

They cannot kill determination.

They cannot kill love.

And your generation are going to be the strongest yet. You are going to be the most determined to beat this .

And you are going to have the most love to give, because we will teach you that you mustn't be afraid of these monsters. No matter how scary they seem.

Remember that in every story, there are goodies and baddies?

Look for the goodies, my darling.

Look at those who, like last nights attack in Manchester, are helping others.

Look for the doctors, the nurses, paramedics, hospital staff, emergency services who are at the scene and working to save  and protect people.

Look for the hotel staff, taxi drivers, bus drivers... all offering to help at no cost.

Look for the passers by who are looking after each other and hugging strangers.

Look for the parents and families who have lost their children to this tragedy, speaking out to show solidarity and unity instead of hatred and revenge.

Look for the strength.

The determination.

The love.

I will not always be there to protect you from the cowards in this world who pray on the innocent and defenceless, but I will teach you to find reassurance in the courage, unity and bravery you see.

I will teach you to be brave yourself.

We will teach you, our children, not to be afraid and to live harder, happier and stronger than any of us ever did.



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WE will stand together whatever faith or believe we have History has shown thats what we do.Last night that was  seen clearly,many people helped  those suffering ,people helped those displaced.The many many people stepped up when called.It will take time but good will overcome evil.

We owe those that lost there lives and those that were injured,to overcome evil.

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I got in late this evening and wanted to comment on t'other thread - disappointed that I can't at present.  Anyroadup I found this:-


and have made a donation.  I hope it helps those in need.

If I could have got to that vigil in Manchester I would have done so


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I have read all the reactions and its been a difficult day knowing that she with her friend was on the missing list ........for christ sake they was only picking up there Kids ...........its mind less and i am very angry ....



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