grendel Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 its going to be interesting to see what the final verdict of the investigations reveal as the cause of the problem, thats for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 Your not wrong. A whole queue of fitters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydraser Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Smoggy said: Isn't the timing chain at the front on a bmc (happy to be corrected as not worked on one for years)? Be hard to not notice the complete lack of resistance turning the pulley if broken that far forward and the starter still wouldn't turn it as it's at the back. Not sure, as I said earlier, not that familiar with these engines. I think in a vehicle this breed of engine has the timing chain at the front but who knows what these marine boys get up to in the workshop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 Forget worn bearings,broken crankshaft, cam followers big maybe but 1/4 of an inch gap instead of 15 thou not possible, its either dropped the valve seats,cause overheating or not installed correctly, and if starter turns engine via flywheel but hand turning doesn't, different/another problem, how are they turning by hand, it wont have a starting handle even if it has a dog nut, are you using a spanner on dog nut on crank end then woodruff key on front pulley which also locks cam chain lower sprocket but this won't cause a big gap at rockers, only put camshaft out of sequence.most likely dropped valve seats, remedy exchange head a day's work John 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted April 21, 2021 Author Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 hours ago, annv said: Forget worn bearings,broken crankshaft, cam followers big maybe but 1/4 of an inch gap instead of 15 thou not possible, its either dropped the valve seats,cause overheating or not installed correctly, and if starter turns engine via flywheel but hand turning doesn't, different/another problem, how are they turning by hand, it wont have a starting handle even if it has a dog nut, are you using a spanner on dog nut on crank end then woodruff key on front pulley which also locks cam chain lower sprocket but this won't cause a big gap at rockers, only put camshaft out of sequence.most likely dropped valve seats, remedy exchange head a day's work John What I could see they used big adjustables on the crank pulley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 Whatever it is a strip down will reveal all ! only problem is how soon can they do this i don't for one moment believe they are standing around with no work, especially at start of the season, please keep us informed as it's a bit of a conundrum. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gancanny Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 are you up and running yet, what was the problem ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 Not up and running yet. Richardsons have found an engine, needs testing. Trying to remain calm but sitting week after week on mooring is hurting. more so I can’t get a pump out or a hot shower! Others have suggested the legal route because sales like this still come under fit for purpose but I like my mooring and the yard and it’s people. more soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 It will come good in the end. It's annoying but at least there is an end in sight and Richardson's are not being funny about changing the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnks34 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 If the engine was in a boat that was needed out on hire it most likely would have been sorted in a matter of days. I had been considering taking a look at what Richardsons had on offer ex hire wise but not after reading this. The engine failing is unfortunate but leaving a customer over a month with no resolution is very very poor in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annv Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Hi Cheesey Have Richardson's been able to say what the problem with the engine is and what caused it? It's good that you have the best boatyard on the job, it can be difficult to access parts for old engines quickly, are you living on the boat? and with covid being with us i guess the ablution block is temperately closed, have you asked if you could be a exception and be able to us it, i found that having a separate diesel fueled water heater was very cost effective along with being environmentally friendly and was able to run a small heating rail in the shower compartment along, and with a imersian heater for when on a electric mooring two off the most used items that paid for them selves as we often moored for several days in one place, all the best . John John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylander Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Can you moor on an electric post for several days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Cheesey69 said: I know the yards are busy but couldn’t Richardson’s sort something out re a pumpout? They should be able to tow you to the facility surely? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Cheesey69 said: Trying to remain calm but sitting week after week on mooring is hurting. more so I can’t get a pump out My reply was re this comment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 1 hour ago, annv said: Hi Cheesey Have Richardson's been able to say what the problem with the engine is and what caused it? It's good that you have the best boatyard on the job, it can be difficult to access parts for old engines quickly, are you living on the boat? and with covid being with us i guess the ablution block is temperately closed, have you asked if you could be a exception and be able to us it, i found that having a separate diesel fueled water heater was very cost effective along with being environmentally friendly and was able to run a small heating rail in the shower compartment along, and with a imersian heater for when on a electric mooring two off the most used items that paid for them selves as we often moored for several days in one place, all the best . John John You know I am considering that! need to get a hot water tank that can hold an immersion heater as my one is custom made but what you say makes sense and saves running the engine. As to the engine they went straight for replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cheesey69 said: As to the engine they went straight for replacement. Are they paying for that or you being as it had not done many hours since sale? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted May 26, 2021 Author Share Posted May 26, 2021 52 minutes ago, Smoggy said: Are they paying for that or you being as it had not done many hours since sale? To be discussed. No one has mentioned anything yet. I don’t mind paying for labour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I don't know but maybe it's an idea to edit that. No point in offering a contribution until you are sure that one is appropriate or expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeCabby Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Not sure an open public forum is the best place to air the ifs and maybes until there has been a resolution 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbx5 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 To be fair I can’t see you could give a guarantee on a 50 year old boat and engine. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 There are all sorts of ways of looking at things, agreed. It just seems best for all concerned to have those discussions privately and face to face in order that the best outcome can be achieved with no publicly stated intentions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 I of course hope you get the issue resolved sooner the better but am intrigued as to what caused the failure Griff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxwellian Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Richardson’s may use a none disclosure agreement as part of the settlement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 59 minutes ago, BroadAmbition said: I of course hope you get the issue resolved sooner the better but am intrigued as to what caused the failure Griff Me too, not to cast blame just to understand the symptoms as they were a bit confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanetAnne Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Smoggy said: Me too, not to cast blame just to understand the symptoms as they were a bit confusing. Me three. Am interested from a learning point of view. I have a number of bmc powered boats so anything that helps with my maintenance is very welcome. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.