Mouldy Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Stay at home, don’t travel . . . . . . . . . . . . Unless you need to drive over 100 miles for your vaccinations and potentially queue for sometime when you get there with your sleeve rolled up. Yep, I can see the sense in that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydraser Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, rightsaidfred said: This is not an apology but as a wartime baby I as I am sure others of the same era grew up in an area that was devastated and where everyone put others needs before there own So perhaps I have a different perspective on the current situation, saying that I am saddened by those who cannot see beyond their own little world compared to the bigger picture. Fred And I wonder what effect modern journalism and social media would have if ever there was another war. We would probably all just cave in trying to save ourselves. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 37 minutes ago, floydraser said: And I wonder what effect modern journalism and social media would have if ever there was another war. I know it's off the subject but look what journalism did in the Falklands War. It could very easily have lost it for us! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 31 minutes ago, Vaughan said: I know it's off the subject but look what journalism did in the Falklands War. It could very easily have lost it for us! It hasn't been altogether helpful in one or two Royal relationships either . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Talking of Royal relationships - Also off topic I know - I have just today finished watching 'The Royals' on Netflix up to the end of series four - entertaining and educational too Griff 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaughan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, BroadAmbition said: entertaining and educational too Maybe. But hardly historical fact! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanR Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, BroadAmbition said: Talking of Royal relationships - Also off topic I know - I have just today finished watching 'The Royals' on Netflix up to the end of series four - entertaining and educational too Griff I’ve watched all four series of The Crown as well. Wasn’t so keen on the fourth one but probably because I remembered the events. But putting the royals aside, series 1-3 were a great modern social history. I do wonder how the pandemic will be viewed in 50 - 100 years time. How will it be described when students look back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, SwanR said: I do wonder how the pandemic will be viewed in 50 - 100 years time. How will it be described when students look back. Too many were cavalier, ignorant and arrogant whilst government was weak, indecisive & slow off the mark. Pop that in a time capsule and wait & see if I'm not right! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meantime Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, JennyMorgan said: Too many were cavalier, ignorant and arrogant whilst government was weak, indecisive & slow off the mark. Pop that in a time capsule and wait & see if I'm not right! Your already right! People might think I'm wrong for driving a short distance to take a walk, but actually the real problem is that this lockdown is not as restrictive as the first, when it needs to be more restrictive and I don't mean on going for a walk. 40-60% children in school still even though it is only meant to be for key workers. Churches still allowed communal worship. Celebrities still travelling out of the country on holiday. Actually no bad thing, just don't let them back in, negative test or not till this is over. Nurseries still allowed to open for all, not just the children of key workers. Garden centres open this time around. More non essential stores allowed to offer click and collect this time around. Cleaners still allowed to come round and clean your house. National Trust and other botanical destination gardens allowed to open. Fishing allowed this time around. Still don't really see that as exercise. And then you have the divide that is being allowed. Bollywood actress allowed to have her hair done because it is for a film part. Elite sport allowed to continue, even though some showed total disregard for their elite status when it came to holding new year parties. Continuing drama, The Voice, The Masked Singer and other such TV programs being allowed to continue filming this time around. Even with social distancing the number of crew and backroom staff needed to film these shows must be significant. The ramifications of those who can afford to keep their children out of school compared to those who cannot afford to, even if they'd like to. The message might be stay at home, but where it really counts, where the face to face transmission is happening, the law, or the guidance, or the rules whatever you want to call it, is not supporting it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Meantime said: The message might be stay at home, but where it really counts, where the face to face transmission is happening, the law, or the guidance, or the rules whatever you want to call it, is not supporting it. Regretfully all too many folk are clearly not supporting the law, the guidance or the rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanR Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 8 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: Regretfully all too many folk are clearly not supporting the law, the guidance or the rules. I agree. It does appear that way from the media coverage. I heard a good point though, on the radio. The rules are the limit not the boundary to be pushed. It’s like the speed limit. It’s the most you can do not what you have to do. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 For anyone who watched Professor Chris Whitty said all that needs to be said on the BBC this morning. Fred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwanR Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I only caught part of it but he seemed like be coming across well, probably better than at the press events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meantime Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 10 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: Regretfully all too many folk are clearly not supporting the law, the guidance or the rules. The biggest problem is far too many people are not minimising their contact with other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Meantime said: The biggest problem is far too many people are not minimising their contact with other people. Biggest problem is people deciding what suits them. Fred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meantime Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 minute ago, rightsaidfred said: Biggest problem is people deciding what suits them. Fred I disagree, its people not minimising contact. There's lots of things I could do and want to do, but don't because I am minimising contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, Meantime said: I disagree, its people not minimising contact. There's lots of things I could do and want to do, but don't because I am minimising contact. Strikes me that BOTH you and Fred are spot on right, this time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floydraser Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 17 hours ago, JennyMorgan said: Too many were cavalier, ignorant and arrogant whilst government was weak, indecisive & slow off the mark. Pop that in a time capsule and wait & see if I'm not right! I think this comment is political and I'm surprised it hasn't been deleted. But in the interest of balance: This is just repeating the same old stuff peddled by the BBC and other corners of the media. Anyone brave enough to put themselves forward (and it is a brave thing to do) does so based on their political principles obviously, but also with confidence that they know how best to handle things like housing, the NHS, the economy etc. No politician anywhere in the World was, or could have been expected to be, prepared to handle a pandemic. It's so easy to criticise from a forum without inside knowledge. And I shudder to think how any other set of people would have handled it! Ditto all managers and supervisors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 if its anything like moderating this forum, a bit like juggling live chickens, one of whom may have swallowed a hand grenade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoggy Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 15 minutes ago, grendel said: if its anything like moderating this forum, a bit like juggling live chickens, one of whom may have swallowed a hand grenade The one with the grenade was probably Jayfire in the jokes section..... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 The latest from an HMG minister is that there will be (eventually) a vaccination centre within 10MIles from anyone... I'm 10.1 miles from Hoveton... We shall see.. vaccinations to date.. 2.4 Million.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JennyMorgan Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 1 hour ago, floydraser said: I think this comment is political and I'm surprised it hasn't been deleted. But in the interest of balance: This is just repeating the same old stuff peddled by the BBC and other corners of the media. Anyone brave enough to put themselves forward (and it is a brave thing to do) does so based on their political principles obviously, but also with confidence that they know how best to handle things like housing, the NHS, the economy etc. No politician anywhere in the World was, or could have been expected to be, prepared to handle a pandemic. It's so easy to criticise from a forum without inside knowledge. And I shudder to think how any other set of people would have handled it! Ditto all managers and supervisors. It wasn't intended to be political, just an observation. If we take the Christmas truce/relaxation as an example that was. I suggest, poor judgement and in my opinion events support that view. On balance it is all a vast unknown so Borris does have both my sympathy & support but history will support, I suspect, that there have been examples of poor judgement and lack of urgency, e.g. it will happen next Wednesday rather than now. As I have suggested, let history be the judge of both my prediction and my comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 6 hours ago, floydraser said: No politician anywhere in the World was, or could have been expected to be, prepared to handle a pandemic Exercise Cygnus https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/28/exercise-cygnus-uncovered-pandemic-warnings-buried-government/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Distance from Hoveton to home - as the crow flies or by road? Actually both well within the 10 miles so I fully expect a letter telling me to go somewhere else further away!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshman Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just spotted another in Norwich within the 10 mile zone - I will probably get a day out to the Excel Centre!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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