Ray Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said: without being sexist what do most women prefer babies and royalty or boats, Fred, you are the bravest man on the forum bar none. I think if you wear a disguise and assume a new identity abroad you may, just, get away with that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBerkshireBoy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 3 hours ago, rightsaidfred said: I understand your point and while to the likes of us its an omission I would imagine to the vast majority the coverage was probably quite well balanced. Fred On any other forum other than a boat bias one people might agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rightsaidfred Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ray said: Fred, you are the bravest man on the forum bar none. I think if you wear a disguise and assume a new identity abroad you may, just, get away with that Ray I dont aim to please or offend anyone, I try to make a considered reflection on the facts as I interpret them, I try not to be biased by my own interests but I also have very little time for the PC world we now live in, life is life and grown up people accept that not everyone shares the same viewpoint. Fred8 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 58 minutes ago, rightsaidfred said: what do most women prefer babies and royalty or boats, Can’t speak for ‘most women’ but for me it’s boats! On the rare occasion I watch anything on BBC, I really enjoy it because there are no b****y adverts. Having said that, BBC is spending more and more time these days advertising itself both on tv and radio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddybear Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, vanessan said: BBC is spending more and more time these days advertising itself both on tv and radio I agree really annoying, not only do you have to watch rubbish, repeats, political crap, and of course there adverts,but pay a bloody licence, sodding insult 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 35 minutes ago, vanessan said: Can’t speak for ‘most women’ but for me it’s boats! On the rare occasion I watch anything on BBC, I really enjoy it because there are no b****y adverts. Having said that, BBC is spending more and more time these days advertising itself both on tv and radio. We've had Sky for a good number of years now. Apart from the vast choice of channels, the ability to record (which we do for almost everything we watch) means that we almost never have to lokk at b****y adverts, being able to fast foward through them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 i use freesat, i mainly watch one channel talking pictures, now while i watch that 'live', since it is all old films its not really live, yet i still pay for a tv license, that and youtube are pretty much all i watch (too busy doing things otherwise). so does what the bbc do concern me much not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Poppy said: We've had Sky for a good number of years now. Apart from the vast choice of channels, the ability to record (which we do for almost everything we watch) means that we almost never have to lokk at b****y adverts, being able to fast foward through them Ditto, that’s why we seldom watch BBC. Live football and news/weather bulletins are the exceptions. We have freesat and freeview and there’s enough stuff on those to record and watch at leisure. The trouble with BBC and their self-advertisements on radio, is that they continually interrupt an interesting article or speaker to play a jingle or promote an upcoming programme. Utterly offensive sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrumpyCheddar Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I’ve stopped my TV licence for this year no live stream for us no sky tv either.. Netflix and Amazon only ... The BBC is a joke... They haven’t made a decent program in years... I think if everyone went down this road and stopped paying and watching live stream for a year then the TV licence be abolished... I mean what do the BBC actually benefit anyone apart from celebs and fat cat BBC board bosses... They can’t even run a proper news service anymore.. saying that any tv media news make a big scare story every time there on... This world would be a much better place with out news media... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, ScrumpyCheddar said: I’ve stopped my TV licence for this year no live stream for us no sky tv either.. Netflix and Amazon only ... The BBC is a joke... They haven’t made a decent program in years... I think if everyone went down this road and stopped paying and watching live stream for a year then the TV licence be abolished... I mean what do the BBC actually benefit anyone apart from celebs and fat cat BBC board bosses... They can’t even run a proper news service anymore.. saying that any tv media news make a big scare story every time there on... This world would be a much better place with out news media... Cannot agree with that. Some of the finest natural history programmes are made by the BBC and there are a few other programmes that are worth watching too. To me, Sky and some of the other satellite channels offer to many of the same programmes at different times and repeat them several times a day. Three pounds a week for a TV licence is hardly breaking the bank, especially considering how much the likes of Sky charge. Regardless of whether you can record and fast forward the adverts or not, when I get time to watch the telly, no adverts for DFS and the rest is a bonus. And besides, I enjoy Radio 2 as well. As far as scare stories in the news is concerned, blame the gutter press for that. The Sun, Mail, Express and the rest are just as guilty, if not more so. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YnysMon Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I think there’s a concerted effort in certain newspapers to discredit the BBC, particularly the Murdock owned media channels and papers. I know the BBC is not perfect, but it’s a lot better than most other channels. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trambo Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, ScrumpyCheddar said: I’ve stopped my TV licence for this year no live stream for us no sky tv either.. Netflix and Amazon only ... The BBC is a joke... They haven’t made a decent program in years... I think if everyone went down this road and stopped paying and watching live stream for a year then the TV licence be abolished... I mean what do the BBC actually benefit anyone apart from celebs and fat cat BBC board bosses... They can’t even run a proper news service anymore.. saying that any tv media news make a big scare story every time there on... This world would be a much better place with out news media... Sorry could not resist and definitely not personal. Whatever you think of BBC T.V. or radio is in my view not the argument. It has and will evolve, sometimes we like and other times not. I personally hate the dumbing down of it's serious radio stations and the way it's news service is ever so careful not to be biased, resulting, at least on T.V. for it to be somewhat bland and accused of just what it is trying to avoid by both the left and the right. What is important is that we have an independent national media channel in a world of extreme and frankly nasty social channels were, if you want, you can listen for hours to people who think just as you but your ideas are never challenged, you will never get the other point of view and this leads to extremism as can be seen growing in todays society. So in my eyes the BBC should not be worried about being mainstream but be there to inform, to educate and to break new grounds in entertainment. To be avant garde and that in my view that should always be the objective of a national broadcaster. How we fund that I'm not sure. I tend to agree the license fee is outdated. Perhaps a government grant backed by advertising is the answer as long as we ensure it is free from commercial and political pressure. Fred p.s. Worth keeping just for "The Archers." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upcycler Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Mouldy said: As far as scare stories in the news is concerned, blame the gutter press for that. The Sun, Mail, Express and the rest are just as guilty, if not more so. A classic reply to newspapers in my opinion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveO Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 15 hours ago, trambo said: p.s. Worth keeping just for "The Archers." Even the Archers has gone "pants" recently. Endless right-on "political" storylines, token ethnic minorities and lately, under the smokescreen of Cov-19 it seems to have lapsed into a series of boring monologues. This is what happens when you have a captive audience. I've given up on it - better things to do with my time. Still paying though, which I resent. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trambo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, SteveO said: Even the Archers has gone "pant under the smokescreen of Cov-19 it seems to have lapsed into a series of boring monologues. This is what happens when you have a captive audience. I've given up on it - better things to do with my time. Still paying though, which I resent. Listened to the archers ever since Caroline Bone had her affair with Brian Aldridge. Have to agree, the Cov-19 monologues are a dirge, sure they could have done better. Perhaps they should have got Alan Bennett on the case! Fred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppy Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 hours ago, SteveO said: Even the Archers has gone "pants" recently. Endless right-on "political" storylines, token ethnic minorities and lately, under the smokescreen of Cov-19 it seems to have lapsed into a series of boring monologues. This is what happens when you have a captive audience. I've given up on it - better things to do with my time. Still paying though, which I resent. There is no charge for radio . You don't need a TV licence to listen to or download radio programmes from BBC Sounds or BBC iPlayer Radio. https://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/faqs/FAQ102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webntweb Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 27 minutes ago, Poppy said: There is no charge for radio . You don't need a TV licence to listen to or download radio programmes from BBC Sounds or BBC iPlayer Radio. BBC radio channels' running costs come out of the TV licence, so if enough people decided to not pay the TV licence then there would have to be a charge for a radio licence. This would adversely affect older people as they are the ones who are less likely to have access to internet radio. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQ Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 A little reminder your TV Licence pays for 7 TV channels, 11 national radio channels, and 40 local radio stations. Thats a lot for the amount we pay and certainly more value than paying sky.. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malanka Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 The huge profit they make from BBC international is a large contributor to the total they spend . BBC America and all that ( yes it has adverts). 1.35Million for presenting footy. Give me a break. 1.35Million to present breakfast on radio 2 Give me a break. The issue of the cost of the BBC is irrelevant as other countries just tax you to have a radio or tv. And it’s generally more than the fee. The issue is making it a criminal offence which is the real national scandal. Anyone who believes the BBC is not biased should rewatch the last election special on the BBC, it’s actually hilarious. The BBC makes and has made historically arbitrary decisions about what constitutes bias or a suitable counter argument. That is NOT their role, that is to report the news. We pay and have BT soon to be Sky, some stuff is good some less so but blanket acceptance of it’s all bad or it’s all good as in this thread is behaving in exactly the way the BBC does. Nowt like folk eh M 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEM Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 36 minutes ago, Malanka said: The issue of the cost of the BBC is irrelevant as other countries just tax you to have a radio or tv. ...and some countries (e.g. Germany) apply broadcasting charges on every property - whether you have a radio / TV, PC or not! Currently costing 52.50 Euros per quarter. I actually watch very little German TV - there are some good travel programs on NDR (even if repeats from bygone years - some are ex-BBC). Wife & daughter watch a lot of Netflix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendel Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 personally i paid out for a freesat box and make do with the umpteen channels that gives - freeview in my area as we are on a repeated is a fraction of the standard freeview channels and half a dozen radio stations, i think we have about 10 or 12 channels. sky - no way, at the prices they charge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malanka Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 HEM, We remember the charge for radio and tv, and the compulsory window insurance and child insurance. Belgium was worse and Switzerland OMG, whomever said was low tax had never been a B resident. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadAmbition Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Never had any type of dish on outside of our hovel - Never will either. We do have freeview along with everyone else I suspect. That's enough for us, especially when you add in Netflix, Amazon Prime and a host of other on line channels. I can't keep up with what we do have let alone paying out for yet more Griff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheesey69 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 This is what sinks the BBC in my mind ” On today we have the internationally respected ex world trade organisation chairman and a reporter from the Sun” and they both have equal screen time. False equivalence happens in politics, you name it These opinions are not equal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanessan Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 15 hours ago, grendel said: personally i paid out for a freesat box and make do with the umpteen channels that gives - freeview in my area as we are on a repeated is a fraction of the standard freeview channels and half a dozen radio stations, i think we have about 10 or 12 channels. sky - no way, at the prices they charge I’m with grendel on this one. A one-off purchase of satellite dish or box (not expensive either) and there’s plenty of programmes available with freesat and freeview. If you want a lot of sport, then I guess you have to pay for it with Sky or BT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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